The Drifting Thread

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
2 hours ago
58 posts

Keith:

I can't play the one in the other thread, but I had a listen to one you posted on Chiff & Fipple, (I think it was), it sounds quite a nice instrument, but I missed the haunting kind of sound that I know they are capable of - enjoy.

Try this

https://youtu.be/wpVmNr5BWfo


updated by @larrys: 04/26/19 03:39:16AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
2 hours ago
146 posts

I can't play the one in the other thread, but I had a listen to one you posted on Chiff & Fipple, (I think it was), it sounds quite a nice instrument, but I missed the haunting kind of sound that I know they are capable of - enjoy.

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
19 hours ago
58 posts

Keith:

Hope you enjoy your NAF, Larry. flute

 

Check out my video in the other thread


updated by @larrys: 04/25/19 10:45:05AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
19 hours ago
146 posts

I'm awaiting its arrival at the moment, but if it's anything like my TD 'A' with flute head, it'll sound really good.

(I'll let you know once I get it in my hands.)

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
21 hours ago
108 posts

You sound glad that you wound up with the flute, Keith.  Does it sound lovely and is it easy for you to 'run' ?




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Keith
Keith
@keith
yesterday
146 posts

I came across an aluminium 3 piece simple system low D flute on Ebay, & was mulling it over for a couple of days, when I decided to give it a go, so bought it.

I mentioned that on the Chiff & Fipple forum, asking if anyone had any experience of the maker, & this flute in particular, when I got a response back from somebody who was also thinking of buying it, & I had just beaten them to it.

If I had dithered a bit longer, likely I wouldn't have been able to have got it, funny how some things turn out.

Keith
Keith
@keith
2 weeks ago
146 posts

My Chieftain Thunderbird in 'A' has arrived, it's a lovely quality aluminium whistle, but not much louder than my others thankfully.

I can't seem to make my mind up if I prefer plastic, brass, or aluminium whistles. Laugh


updated by @keith: 04/10/19 09:22:37AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 weeks ago
146 posts

Hope you enjoy your NAF, Larry. flute

Yes, I believe the Chieftain is made of aluminium, it should be a bit louder than my Dixon, I think, I just hope it's not too loud for playing at home, as it's classed as a 'pro' whistle.

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 weeks ago
108 posts

Careful Larry, I hear those NAFs are extremely addictive... nailbite

Keith, is the Cheiftain made from aluminum?




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LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 weeks ago
58 posts
Hoping to get a native American style flute soon...
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 weeks ago
146 posts

I know, I know - just couldn't resist - Chieftain mezzo 'A' soon to be mine from Ebay. winker

(Looks like it's hardly been played, from the photos.)

Also, I returned my tunable Duo 'C' back to being a whistle.


updated by @keith: 04/08/19 09:28:00AM
LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 weeks ago
58 posts
Keith:

Just snagged a Tony Dixon ABS one piece low D whistle for £23 on Ebay. flute


Very nice
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 weeks ago
146 posts

Just snagged a Tony Dixon ABS one piece low D whistle for £23 on Ebay. flute

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 weeks ago
58 posts

Keith:
LarryS: I wanted to try the opposite with my boehm flute-fit a whistle head to it so I can play it and have a fully chromatic whistle!

It might be just possible, my TD alto whistle head 'just about' fits over the head of my Gemeinhardt, but you'd need a short length of tube between the two tubes, so that the fipple was in the right area, with about half an inch showing.

Might it be worth £15 for a head to try(?), I don't know, but I don't need to, as I shall be having another go on it & my piccolo once my embouchure is more stable.


Oh I pretty much gave up on flute embouchure. Just too hard

Keith
Keith
@keith
4 weeks ago
146 posts

Strumelia: Them's pretty bold moves you got there Keith.  I am impressed that you can enjoyably switch between a low F and a high F...

It's really quite easy, the high whistle just starts where the second octave is on my low whistle. winkerflute

 

Keith
Keith
@keith
4 weeks ago
146 posts

LarryS: I wanted to try the opposite with my boehm flute-fit a whistle head to it so I can play it and have a fully chromatic whistle!

It might be just possible, my TD alto whistle head 'just about' fits over the head of my Gemeinhardt, but you'd need a short length of tube between the two tubes, so that the fipple was in the right area, with about half an inch showing.

Might it be worth £15 for a head to try(?), I don't know, but I don't need to, as I shall be having another go on it & my piccolo once my embouchure is more stable.

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
4 weeks ago
108 posts

Them's pretty bold moves you got there Keith.  I am impressed that you can enjoyably switch between a low F and a high F... that broad range is is about as wide as my head can even wrap around.  surprised




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LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 weeks ago
58 posts

Keith:

Bought myself a flute head & fitted it to my TD tunable aluminium 'A' whistle - my TD tunable aluminium 'C' whistle is also fitted with the flute head - so both my tunable whistles are temporarily now flutes.happydance

My main whistles still remain my low 'F', low 'D', alto 'A', & alto 'G' - with my 'C's & my high 'F' as grab up whistles. flute

I wanted to try the opposite with my boehm flute-fit a whistle head to it so I can play it and have a fully chromatic whistle!


updated by @larrys: 03/29/19 08:48:18AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
4 weeks ago
146 posts

Bought myself a flute head & fitted it to my TD tunable aluminium 'A' whistle - my TD tunable aluminium 'C' whistle is also fitted with the flute head - so both my tunable whistles are temporarily now flutes.happydance

My main whistles still remain my low 'F', low 'D', alto 'A', & alto 'G' - with my 'C's & my high 'F' as grab up whistles. flute

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
one month ago
58 posts
Seeing as I don't get on with my low D I'm selling it. Its going to the states!
Keith
Keith
@keith
one month ago
146 posts

I've been playing my new plastic whistles a bit more, in fact, I have one behind my chair, where I usually sit, along with one of my chromatic harmonicas - just reach around & grab it. flute

Also volunteered to host a week, for my uke forum friends, mainly just to keep in touch with them, now that I've been distracted with these whistles, (& flutes). popcorn

Keith
Keith
@keith
one month ago
146 posts

So, what's everyone else been up to?

Keith
Keith
@keith
one month ago
146 posts

Well.......regardless of what my scales are saying, I'm back to wearing 38" jeans again......yippee! grin

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
2 months ago
108 posts

That's depressing about your weight scale, Keith.  sadsmile

Raspberry pi... i had to look it up.  Sounds like lots of fun to work on!  Maybe the modern version of 'working on model airplanes'?




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Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

I've been back to my ukes & harmonicas for a bit just lately, but today was all about my Raspberry Pi computers...........you've got to have a change, haven't you. banjo

Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

My sister was at the doctors the other day, & she was weighed by them, when she came back, she declared my scales under weighing by about 14lbs, that is bad news, as last time I weighed myself they said 14st 7lbs!

New, digital, scales on their way to me, lets hope they 'say' the 'right' weight! winker

Chifmunk
Chifmunk
@chifmunk
2 months ago
14 posts

Well it's 19 degrees F here this morning.. pretty darn cold.  I certainly won't be playing any whistles outside.  Maybe carve a whistle out of an icicle?  frozen

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
2 months ago
58 posts
Pouring rain here, bouncing off the road. My daughter will be home from school soon and she will be quite wet!
Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

After some lovely weather recently, it has now turned much colder, & the fingers aren't working as well in the cold! winky

Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

The video I mention was made by Tony Hinnigan, (of Kerry Whistles), he compared the Glenluce 'D' with his Susato 'D', & he felt it compared well with it, considering it was half the price, but it couldn't be 'pushed' as much, (i.e. less volume).

These are brand new whistles, (found whilst looking around Ebay the other day), & I thought it worth taking a chance on them.

I think that they play rather well, with a sound quite similar to the Tony Dixon ABS one piece high 'D'.

(No, I don't own any Susato whistles myself - the only plastic whistle I had was the Dixon high 'D'.)

(P.S. My embouchure on my M&E 'F' flute is coming along nicely, I'm really liking it.)

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
2 months ago
108 posts

Do you think they were made for these companies by Susato?
Are these new or used whistles that you got?

How do they play and sound?

And do you have the Susato in C black plastic to compare them to?




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Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

....arrived today, first impressions, they seem to play well, with a fairly easy second octave.

On closer inspection, they do seem to be the same whistle(!), exactly identical, (to me), except for the printed name on them, & the supplied cases, (of which the Recorder Workshop one is better).

 

So if you're looking for a plastic whistle in 'C', I'd suggest trying the Recorder Workshop one. thumbsup


updated by @keith: 02/20/19 07:32:22AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

.......found a couple of plastic whistles in 'C' on Ebay the other day.

One is a Glenluce, (which got a pretty good recommendation from a suggested video on Chiff & Fipple), £14.95.

The other is by Recorder Workshop, £5.50.

(They both look like Susato whistles do.)


updated by @keith: 02/20/19 07:34:13AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
2 months ago
146 posts

Had a good practice session today, almost got through my 5 regulars without any mishaps, on my low F, my F flute, & followed that with a burst on my low D too. flute

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
Low whistles are airy. Its basically a tube of air with holes in. Still nice sounding, unique
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

Surprised you think it weaker sounding than tenor recorder, my Yamaha was really a soft player, to my ear, but I find my Howard low D has what I call a 'fuller sound'/ 'stronger tone'.

I quite liked the tone of yours when I listened to it being played online, but decided on the Howard 'B' stock as it was cheaper, & not knowing how I'd get on with a low D finger stretch, (I sometimes still don't quite cover the holes, & get that odd sound, when you don't).


updated by @keith: 02/09/19 07:04:41AM
LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
Keith:

That ones got a nice tone to it too, & has that sort of haunting/breathy sound that goes well with aires & the like - at least, I think so.


I actually find it a bit too breathy,weak sounding compared to tenor recorder
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

That ones got a nice tone to it too, & has that sort of haunting/breathy sound that goes well with aires & the like - at least, I think so.

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts

Try this: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDqI46zfUV8&list=PL9CRnS8InnK4TaaDA0biS1dfnrAzH7yP9

 

 


updated by @larrys: 02/08/19 06:40:42PM
LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
Well I did post the url but I guess the site converts it...

play Low D improv
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

I'd be up for a listen - but I can't make those links work for me - that's why I try to ensure the actual URL gets posted, when I put a link on here.

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
A bit of improv on my Kerry Optima low D

play Low D improv
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

Tone wise, I think it's pretty good, it has quite a strong sound, if I get it right, (but I can't really play it yet, I need to find my embouchure on it).

Depending on the music, & how I feel, I'll add staccato, &/or slurs, just to make it mine, (sometimes even vibrato) - I think we need to interpret some tunes our own way.

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 months ago
108 posts

Keith:

OK, here's a first attempt with it.

It's got a lovely tone in F, Keith!  Very pleasant to listen to.  :)

Here's a challenge for you-  at certain measures to go from one note to another without tongueing. Like from note 1 to 2, OR from note 3 to 4 in a measure.
I catch myself with both tongueing and bowing I tend to always do a new tongue or a new bowstroke with every note. It always sounds better when I slur some note transitions on the same breath or the same bowstroke.  Mind you, I'm a rank amateur but I've found that it sounds good when I vary it  -once I am able to.   :D

 




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Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

Pictures.....top to bottom.....

Damian Thompson delrin beginner flute (low D)

Howard low D whistle

M&E polymer F flute

Shearwater low F whistle

 

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updated by @keith: 02/08/19 09:57:37AM
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

OK, here's a first attempt with it.

https://soundcloud.com/user-604445267/zoom0003/s-Su14o

(Still got to work out where to set the embouchure hole in relation to the finger holes.)

 


updated by @keith: 02/08/19 10:01:19AM
LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
Be good to see and hear it Keith
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

My new simple system keyless flute in 'F' arrived today - I think I may just be a fan of the key of 'F' - my low 'F' whistle has become my new favourite, & I tootle on the high 'F' for fun.....flute

Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

A nearby town has made it to the news, roads all locked up because of jack knifed lorries on the motorway.

We have about 4~5" presently, certainly somewhat cold, but nothing compared to you lot over there in the States.

Stay safe & warm.

Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
3 months ago
108 posts

We had about 9 inches. (such an appropriate subject for the 'drifting thread' lolol)

It's not as bad here in NY as in Chicago, but it's been pretty darn cold too- this morning at 10am it's minus 1 degree F.  Brrr




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LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
3 months ago
58 posts
We had a dusting up here. Elsewhere, mainly down south, there has been heavy snowfall.
Keith
Keith
@keith
3 months ago
146 posts

Well, we had some snow overnight, & we are now sitting watching a couple young families with their sledges & throwing snowballs, at least they are enjoying it. cooldance

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 months ago
58 posts
Thanks Keith. I have a few resources I can use
Keith
Keith
@keith
4 months ago
146 posts

No, it's not easy finding your embouchure on a flute, but it will come - & then it's just a matter of perfecting it.

All I can offer is that you place it's front edge on the bottom of your lip & go from there, by rolling it in or out, until you find where it works for you, everybody is different, & it will take a bit of time, good luck.

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 months ago
58 posts
I'm currently trying to teach myself flute. Its not easy!
Chifmunk
Chifmunk
@chifmunk
4 months ago
14 posts

I'm totally there with you Keith!  thumbsup

Keith
Keith
@keith
4 months ago
146 posts

Well, here I am buying a couple more whistles, & I expect you're all thinking that I'm being extravagant, but honestly, I went through life without the means to buy & try stuff, & am now only just able to, so I guess that I'm just making the most of what time I have left - I'm not getting any younger you know. time

LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 months ago
58 posts
Thanks. It sounds fab, when played properly
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
4 months ago
108 posts

Lovely mellow tone on that whistle, Larry.




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LarryS
LarryS
@larrys
4 months ago
58 posts
Here it is:

play My first low whistle
 
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